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A northwest Omaha homeowner wants to install a small wind turbine similar to this one on his property, but zoning rules may throw a wrench in the works.
A northwest Omaha homeowner is hoping to pump green energy back into his home, but city planners and some of his neighbors aren’t sure his plan is a good idea.
Homeowner Shuguang Jiang is asking for a special permit to install a wind turbine that would stand about 10 feet above his garage.
According to city planning documents, the relatively low-capacity turbine would be on a pole that extends from the garage floor and through the roof to a total height of 31 feet. The total rotor diameter is 10 feet, with each blade measuring 3 feet long.
Such turbines have risen in popularity along with interest in green energy, but city planners acknowledge that they’re behind in updating rules to match the interest. In Omaha, the requests for the necessary zoning approval more commonly have come from businesses in commercial areas.
In advance of today’s Planning Board meeting, several neighbors in the area southwest of 120th Street and West Maple Road have contacted the City Planning Department to register their opposition.
City planners also oppose Jiang’s request on the grounds that the turbine’s rotors would be too close to neighboring property lines.
City planning officials are looking to update Omaha’s codes governing wind energy systems, which date to 1987, said David Fanslau, the city’s manager of current planning.
With current technology, certain wind turbines might be appropriate in some neighborhoods, Fanslau said. Some small turbines, for instance, are aligned on a vertical axis, not propped up horizontally, and don’t have to be as tall to catch a breeze.
Until any new standards are in place, though, the city must apply its older code, he said.
“If it’s reasonable, we’re trying to make them work,” Fanslau said. “In some cases, it’s not.”
Jiang, whose turbine has approval from the Omaha Public Power District, said he is unsure how much of his energy needs the turbine would cover but wants to give it a try.
If the turbine can tap an average wind speed of 7 mph, that would generate 801 kilowatt hours of electricity each year, according to the manufacturer’s information about the model Jiang hopes to install.
That’s enough to cover about 7 percent of the energy consumption in the typical U.S. household. It would effectively provide the electricity to run a dishwasher for a year.
“I still believe it’s worth it,” Jiang said.
Jiang figures the turbine would cost him between $3,000 and $6,000 to buy and install.
Neighbors have raised concerns about safety, noise, appearance and a potential drag on property values.
“While I am generally in favor of energy conservation measures,” one wrote in an e-mail to planners, “I am concerned about the impact of such a system in our neighborhood.”
Jiang said his turbine would not be a safety threat, and he points to research suggesting that small wind energy systems don’t hurt property values.
“If it’s ugly,” he said, “I don’t want one put on my roof.”
The issue, which must go before the City Council after the Planning Board makes its recommendation, could come down to the matter of space.
Current rules call for Jiang’s proposed turbine to sit at least 165 feet from the nearest property line. Property records show that his lot is only 69 feet wide, and the turbine’s pole would be 20 feet from the nearest property line.
The council can grant a waiver to that rule. But planners say an exception for this case would be excessive.
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444-1128, jeff.robb@owh.com
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39 Comments
Posted by: scattered on 11/04/09 @ 12:28 am:
Large TV or Satellite Dishes didn't bring property values down. Neither will this.
Posted by: SomeDumbHick on 11/04/09 @ 12:40 am:
gee, a guy wants to put up a windmill. In Nebraska. To become more self-sufficient. This is bad? What is wrong with his neighbors? Apparently private property rights have been curtailed because "someone might not like that". What a joke.
Posted by: Gucci on 11/04/09 @ 1:00 am:
Let him do it... One step in the right direction
Posted by: Dan on 11/04/09 @ 1:00 am:
So it's now gone from 'Not In My Backyard!' to 'Not In My Neighbors Backyard!"? What is this world coming to? Someone tries to do the right thing for the environment, spends quite a large deal of money on a small windmill, and he can't put it up because some neighbors tattled on him? How petty.
First things first though, let's address those outdated city codes.
Posted by: SnidelyWhiplash on 11/04/09 @ 2:42 am:
DumbHick doesn't sound so dumb. I wonder how many windmills were located there before that subdivision was put in?
Perhaps city code should be changed to REQUIRE all new housing construction include such a small scale windmill. It's windy here, folks, and we might as well use it to our benefit.
Posted by: nierika on 11/04/09 @ 3:14 am:
I am all for green energy but this guy needs to make sure that the windmill wouldn't cause infrasound/low frequency noise issues for neighbors in a city setting: http://www.windenergyplanning.com/wind-energy-questions-what-is-infrasound-and-low-frequency-noise/
Posted by: toyboy56 on 11/04/09 @ 6:36 am:
Ugly, inefficient solar panels are ok, but quiet, sleek wind generators are not. Do some homework before you throw up your protest flag.
Posted by: ez on 11/04/09 @ 6:59 am:
This looks better than many of the satellite dishes that have popped up everywhere - AND it's far better for the environment. I'm SO glad I don't live in one of these backward-minded neighborhoods!
Posted by: Rocky on 11/04/09 @ 7:06 am:
Our country needs to encourage innovation that leads towards a reduced dependence on energy per capita. There is movement in the world that suggests that the people of the United States are going to be punished for our success; E.g. we use more energy per person that the rest of the world, therefore pollute more (See Cap and Trade and other fun ways being considered to level the playing field).
Approved. Report back in a year and we will see if it helped.
Posted by: Semi-Pro on Wind on 11/04/09 @ 7:11 am:
A small turbine like this wont produce much power and isn't much of a concern. Yeah, technically the property line is within the 'fall space' of his turbine. But, he has it coming up out of his roof, which will act to decrease the fall space.
The biggest complaint will be with noise. I haven't seen his plans, but since he has he pole coming up from his roof, as the pole vibrates, so will his house. He needs to install dampers to reduce noise and reduce wear on his hosue.
Posted by: Mike on 11/04/09 @ 7:25 am:
look like it is time to update the current laws.....it is a great idea!
Posted by: Joe on 11/04/09 @ 7:28 am:
If OPPD would ever catch up with the states that surround Nebraska maybe this guy would not need to build is own wind turbines,, as I drive around Iowa, South Dakota and Colorado, I see hundreds of free standing wind generators but not in Nebraska,, I would like to see everyone but one in there yard..
Posted by: jdwheels on 11/04/09 @ 7:31 am:
I am sure as long as the city gets to tax the heck out of these, then they will allow them.
Posted by: Dave on 11/04/09 @ 7:37 am:
Good luck, Mr. Jiang. Despite some of your neighbors' fears, there are a lot of people behind you. Hopefully the wind will be behind you soon as well.
Posted by: Vicki on 11/04/09 @ 7:42 am:
if its on his property,not bothering anyone,then he should be allowed to do it..who cares what the neighbors think.
Posted by: Scott on 11/04/09 @ 7:45 am:
Nebraska is virtually the "Saudi Arabia" of wind. We should be tapping this resource with a fervor!
As long as they aren't noisy, I'd much rather see a windmill in my neighbor's yard than satellite dishes. At least the windmill is doing something positive.
Posted by: Jed on 11/04/09 @ 7:49 am:
This issue superceeds property valuation. The man is trying to better the environment, save some money and he is obviously conscious of his own energy usage. His neighbors should look to this man as a leader. An energy or environmentally conscious person looking to move into this neighborhood may find it appealing that his future neighbors care about the environment.
Posted by: Alex on 11/04/09 @ 7:51 am:
How ridiculous. The only way that wind power will become viable is if more people buy in. Nice job allowing people to offset their carbon footprints. Why not just allow coal burning furnaces in people's houses?
Posted by: SoWhat on 11/04/09 @ 7:55 am:
His house probably looks like the 200 other houses in his neighborhood. Lord forbid he offend his crackerjack neighbors, be an individual, take a stand for the environment, use his property to support his energy consumption, etc, etc. $10 says he's got at least 2 neighbors that work for OPPD. Let's see how much his neighbors complain when electricity triples in the next 3 years.
Posted by: gen on 11/04/09 @ 8:01 am:
From experience, I know the turbines are noisy. Think of a leaf blower, running next door, 24/7.
Posted by: RWS on 11/04/09 @ 8:04 am:
Wind turbines are dangerous to birds. They injure and kill thousands of them every year. If you don't want dead birds falling on your garage, Mr. Jiang, don't install this wind turbine.
Posted by: Jason on 11/04/09 @ 8:26 am:
From the article: "Neighbors have raised concerns about safety, noise, appearance and a potential drag on property values."
Uh-huh. Eliminate all but "appearance," and I think you're much closer to the truth.
Posted by: I'm sure.. on 11/04/09 @ 8:50 am:
his neighbors would also be opposed to solar panels on his roof, etc.? Until we let people experiment to find alt. solutions to energy, we're never going to stop being dependant on the middle east. I'll happily look at a nieghbors windmill over being dependant on the middle east for oil for the next 200 years.
Posted by: Diane on 11/04/09 @ 9:07 am:
I want to put one up. How do I help?
Posted by: Mel on 11/04/09 @ 9:09 am:
His windmill sounds more visually appealing than people who leave their five trash cans strewn along the curb for days after the trash was picked up.
Posted by: movingright on 11/04/09 @ 9:15 am:
This is the type of responsible homeowner that this state and this country needs. I would think this would be a huge plus for the next homeowner. Heaven forbid that we allow our citizens to be a little bit self sufficient and eco conscious.
Posted by: Joe on 11/04/09 @ 9:41 am:
Wow, just think if everyone put up one of these turbines. We would use 7% less energy a year - that would be awesome. My work has a large turbine and it is not noising. These neighbors need a life. They need to pertake in a topic that really matters like poverty, climate change, the economy, homelessness or affordable housing not some guy who wants to better the planet and his electric bills by putting up a turbine. People are ridiculous sometimes!
Posted by: concerned on 11/04/09 @ 9:41 am:
I wouldn't be so concerned about the appearance. I'd be concerned about the noise. They really do produce a lot of noise. Not just a small whisper you can hear only when you're outside, either.
Posted by: Bob on 11/04/09 @ 9:47 am:
If you run the #'s it would take 104 year's to pay $5,000 cost in electrical saving's, the guy must be nut's.
Posted by: Joe on 11/04/09 @ 9:59 am:
I have done some reasearch on urban turbines and in the past and I found this from an independent study: Most small wind turbines, in fact, make less noise than a residential air conditioner.
So why dont you start a crusade against air conditoners as well......
Posted by: Bubba Says on 11/04/09 @ 10:27 am:
The libs want us to go green but when someone has a good idea for themselves that could save them money the answer is no. I'll bet that if the government puts a tax on it they will approve the wind turbines faster than that propeller can turn around once in a Nebraska tornado!
Posted by: concerned on 11/04/09 @ 10:33 am:
Wait until energy prices are three or four times what they are today. Then, I believe, the neighbors will not be so worried about appearances.
Posted by: Sadie on 11/04/09 @ 11:01 am:
This is the kind of action we need to preserve our environment. I applaud the man for his thinking and wish his neighbors would grow up. They need to learn it ain't "all about me" as they want us to believe. If we don't take actions now, there won't be a future.
Posted by: TW on 11/04/09 @ 12:16 pm:
Even the companies promoting these products state they are best used in
areas with higher average wind speeds and that is at a minimum of 35 feet,
where the proposed height for this project is 10 feet. These same
companies state Wind Turbines are not best used in suburban residential
areas.
How efficient is it - could you save just as much with turning off lights,
shortening showers, among other things?
It will look awful and this quiet neighborhood will have to shout when
enjoying a day outside - Good luck to anyone trying to sell in the area if
this goes through.
Posted by: Realistic on 11/04/09 @ 12:18 pm:
Enough energy to power a dishwasher for a year? Is that on high or low setting. How is this a conservation of energy. Unless there are millions of these out there, this effort is futile. We need to be looking at where this technology is most effective. Omaha only has a avg wind speed of 9.8mph. This is not enough to make it a viable alternative. Our state needs to invest on wind fields and figure out how to get the energy to the people. Do your research.
Posted by: DanO on 11/04/09 @ 12:27 pm:
The comment about birds is unfounded...noise? How about air conditioners, heat pumps (I can hear my neighbors from 50yards across the street).
So when is America going to stop being cowardly and let elected officials be reminded they work for the citizens? Address the ordance, bring it up to modern times, and let's get on with dealing with renewable energy in a positive manner. Three years from now everyone will be complaining about the price of gas, our electric bills are going to go nowhere but up.
Maybe we need to start an Omaha Green Energy Group of citizens to get somehting to happen.
Posted by: Chicago Husker on 11/05/09 @ 1:53 pm:
How many decades will it take for a small wind turbine like this to produce enough energy savings to equal the cost of unit? The return on this investment is not realistic. Without federal dollars, it would be utterly ridiculous to even consider. It's a cute, green idea, but one that also interferes with the rights of existing neighbors, potentially harming their property resale values. What if it were a smoke-stack of a furnace that burns garbage to run a generator? I'll bet most would say..."Not in my neighborhood!" As far as carbon footprints are concerned, the footprint to produce the turbine is gigantically larger than the carbon it would save. The proper way of handling this situation was by addressing the laws governing this issue, ideally before the housing development was built. I suggest the turbine owner use his money better with an alternate, less imposing method of saving energy. I'm for the neighbors.
Posted by: Ohkay on 11/06/09 @ 1:25 pm:
"What if it were a smoke-stack of a furnace that burns garbage to run a generator? I'll bet most would say..."Not in my neighborhood!" "
You're trying to compare a garbage burning furnace to a turbine? Lol, awesome.
Posted by: Kingnme on 11/12/09 @ 2:19 pm:
What is the World coming to? here we are trying to conserve energy and keep our air clean and some people are bickering about something they know nothing about, Renewable energy is the way to go and we all know it. what we need is an organized group of people in the Omaha area to get together to get something done regarding Going green and staying green from here on out. Do your homework before you have anything to say bottom line, Solar panels and wind turbines is the way to go. (Go Green) You people really need to grow up!!! Geeeezzz!